AYe AYe...

[Moggy]

Hi Lord Morris
I think You have hit upon the solution ... existing software that could be ported now that would be something worth trying.

[RWAP]

Surely the other suggested solution is to use some of the tools created for the Spectrum (is there a WAV to AY convertor for example?) and then use a program to convert the Spectrum AY format to the ZX81 AY format?

[siggi]

Surely the other suggested solution is to use some of the tools created for the Spectrum (is there a WAV to AY convertor for example?) and then use a program to convert the Spectrum AY format to the ZX81 AY format?

KMURTA already did that with his "Pink Panther" (converted from MIDI to AY and ported from Speccy to Zeddy):

http://zx81.eu5.org/toddysofte.html#Toddy_Forth

or http://zx81.eu5.org/files/soft/toddy/pinkpthr.zip

Siggi

[BrunoFlorindo]

You don't have to worry about creating such software, because it already exists. As long as your hardware supports it, people can use the software that's already available to create AY music for the ZX81. The ZX81 will also be able to play and use titles that are already available (hundreds of them).

Someone like Yerzmyey can give more details on this or correct me if I'm wrong. But I think all you would need is to be able to have the ports set as the same ports used by all other Sinclair computers that use an AY chip. If you were planning to do a Zon-X-compatible module, the changes would be minimal.

[Moggy]

Surely the other suggested solution is to use some of the tools created for the Spectrum (is there a WAV to AY convertor for example?) and then use a program to convert the Spectrum AY format to the ZX81 AY format?

KMURTA already did that with his "Pink Panther" (converted from MIDI to AY and ported from Speccy to Zeddy):

http://zx81.eu5.org/toddysofte.html#Toddy_Forth

or http://zx81.eu5.org/files/soft/toddy/pinkpthr.zip

Siggi

Hi Siggi Thanks for this one
Don't know how I missed this
It plays on My Zonx with Expand attached superbly well
I have thousands of Midi files that I could convert using midi2ay , it's just the converting to p file that has Me stumped , still this looks very promising

Thanks again Siggi.
Regards Moggy

[Moggy]

No luck sorry to say ,the midi to ay is the easy bit anyone know how to turn the end result into a usable p file or is this another dead end?

[sirmorris]

There will be some player code involved somewhere... what code has the author got lying around? If we can find that out let me know and we'll see what we can cobble together.

C

[Moggy]

There will be some player code involved somewhere... what code has the author got lying around? If we can find that out let me know and we'll see what we can cobble together.

C

Hi Charlie midi2ay does as described IE it turns a midi file into a spectrum tap file what we need to know is how did Kmurta turn a spectrum tap into a zx81 p ? Which plays superbly on a real zonx but dreadfully on EO, turn a tap file into a p file and problem solved I think .
Or is the turning of lead into gold so complex He only bothered converting the one tune?

I ask from a position of total ignorance from a programming point of view but one of total frustration from a musicians standpoint.

So close so nearly there; I found this zonx demo are there any clues here I wonder, plays well on real kit crap on EO.

[yerzmyey]

And then the question of where to get enough AY chips comes along....

It will not be a problem if anybody writes a small tool to convert ZX Spectrum songs into ZX81. Can be a tool for PC.
Let's say, from compiled song (without stated RANDOMIZE USR) in TAP form, into some *.p file with a proper player added.

To explain a way the music works on Spectrum, let's assume for a moment, that we're dealing with an AY song compiled into RANDOMIZE USR 40000.

The player on Spectrum looks like this:

10 RANDOMIZE USR 40000
20 RANDOMIZE USR 40006
30 PAUSE 1
40 GOTO 20

The end.

[yerzmyey]

Btw, I would try to provide any help required, about files, test-songs, testing itself (however I don't have ZonX so the convertor's author would have to record results from ZX81 into MP3).
If I don't know anything, surely Gasman would help too. This is the man who made a PC utility for making pictures for ZX81 and saving them as *.p.