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ZX81 Some keys not working

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:08 pm
by repetto74
Hi Guys,

Desperate to have the ZX81 keyboard to be fully functional. The strip connector was in a very bad shape at the time I picked this unit up and though this was the issue so I bought a fresh new keyboard from SellMyRetro but after installing, cleaning the strip connectors and put some fresh solder onto the original solder joints I still have some keys not working (ie key3, keyG...). Is this a bad ULA symptom or is any test or fix I can try out? :cry:

Thanks,
Rick

Re: ZX81 Some keys not working

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:39 pm
by 1024MAK
Can you please list all the keys that don’t work.

Mark

Re: ZX81 Some keys not working

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:53 pm
by repetto74
Here it is Mark,

Keys 3,8,E,I,D,K,X,M. Any Shifted function on those keys will not work also.
3,E,D and X are more or less aligned on the keyboard and same for 8,I,K and M.

Re: ZX81 Some keys not working

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:12 pm
by dessony
Repetto74,

Try cleaning a 5 pins strip connector with some very fine emery sandpaper. If not working then buy a new set of connectors.

DesSony

Re: ZX81 Some keys not working

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:29 pm
by repetto74
Hi Dessony,

The strip connector is not the problem I think because I cleaned it with contact spray already.

Re: ZX81 Some keys not working

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:42 pm
by dessony
Does your computer show its white "K" and its black square on the white screen? Can you touch an end of a wire on a middle pin of the 5 pins connector and another end of the wire on one pin of your own choice of the 8 pins connector and check the result on the screen?

Maybe you have to evaporate some flux off the 5 pins connector and leave some shiny solder and wash some flux with contact spray or some rubbing alcohol.

DesSony

Re: ZX81 Some keys not working

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:37 pm
by repetto74
Yes I do see the 'K' prompt and all keys are working except the one listed on my reply above. Did not try to short the 2 connectors still but will test this as soon as possible. I have also refluxed the solder joint on the back for both connectors.

Re: ZX81 Some keys not working

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:52 pm
by RWAP
It is possible that the membrane has a fault - but the first thing to check is to short the 5 way connector with the 8 way using a piece of wire.

Also check that are no pieces of the old membrane inside either connector (sometimes a tiny sliver is left behind). The pins on the connectors can also become damaged or corroded so there can be several reasons.

Re: ZX81 Some keys not working

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:34 pm
by repetto74
Hi Rwap,

Bad luck if this new keypad has a defective strip. The reason why I replaced the keypad was the original strip in a very bad shape and broken in some areas resulting in keys not working. Cannot remember if the non working ones are the same as now. I will test both connector with a wire and see the result.

Re: ZX81 Some keys not working

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:55 pm
by XavSnap
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