Oh no! Not another ULA.

Any discussions related to the creation of new hardware or software for the ZX80 or ZX81
User avatar
Andy Rea
Posts: 1606
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 2:48 pm
Location: Planet Earth
Contact:

Re: Oh no! Not another ULA.

Post by Andy Rea »

1024MAK wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:46 pm If we don’t find any better uses for spare bits, if there are spare output pins, maybe use for Blinkenlights :P

This would normally be under software control, hence the Zeddy could gain a very simple output. If you don’t want a Blinkenlight, it could drive something else via suitable circuitry (transistor) such as a relay.

Mark
That is an awesome idea..
what's that Smell.... smells like fresh flux and solder fumes...
User avatar
Paul
Posts: 1570
Joined: Thu May 27, 2010 8:15 am
Location: Germanys west end

Re: Oh no! Not another ULA.

Post by Paul »

Well, then activate ROMCS when write is high or Refresh is low according to A14 of course.
The other free bit could determin wether RAMCS should be normal or for 56K. ROMCS as well of course.
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is.
Moggy
Posts: 3411
Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:00 pm

Re: Oh no! Not another ULA.

Post by Moggy »

Andy Rea wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:49 pm
Paul wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:52 am With those free bits, could you offer faster turbo modes?
This way we could try out up to which speed our Zeddy still works :mrgreen:
You Want Quad speed ? in theory should work.. BUT you WILL need a faster CPU and The MOTOROLA type rom (or your own fast replacement) the NEC roms dont even work at double speed !

Bngger!!! :roll: :roll: the motorola rom is too slow also.
What about those of us using the big bang EPROM? Will that cope?

EPROM type 2764
Last edited by Moggy on Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Andy Rea
Posts: 1606
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 2:48 pm
Location: Planet Earth
Contact:

Re: Oh no! Not another ULA.

Post by Andy Rea »

what about just not allowing ROMCS to go low if ~WR is low ? would that work ? or would it need some address qualifier also like address <= $1FFF
what's that Smell.... smells like fresh flux and solder fumes...
User avatar
Andy Rea
Posts: 1606
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 2:48 pm
Location: Planet Earth
Contact:

Re: Oh no! Not another ULA.

Post by Andy Rea »

Moggy wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:52 pm
Andy Rea wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:49 pm
Paul wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:52 am With those free bits, could you offer faster turbo modes?
This way we could try out up to which speed our Zeddy still works :mrgreen:
You Want Quad speed ? in theory should work.. BUT you WILL need a faster CPU and The MOTOROLA type rom (or your own fast replacement) the NEC roms dont even work at double speed !

Bngger!!! :roll: :roll: the motorola rom is too slow also.
What about those of us using the big bang EPROM? Will that cope?
what type of rom chip is it ? if its 250ns or less then i think it will be ffine.
what's that Smell.... smells like fresh flux and solder fumes...
Moggy
Posts: 3411
Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:00 pm

Re: Oh no! Not another ULA.

Post by Moggy »

2764 old 21 volt type.
User avatar
Paul
Posts: 1570
Joined: Thu May 27, 2010 8:15 am
Location: Germanys west end

Re: Oh no! Not another ULA.

Post by Paul »

About blinkenlight pins: I guess both oscillator pins are unused :?:

About BigBang: which content is at address 1001?
255?
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is.
User avatar
Paul
Posts: 1570
Joined: Thu May 27, 2010 8:15 am
Location: Germanys west end

Re: Oh no! Not another ULA.

Post by Paul »

Andy Rea wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:53 pm what about just not allowing ROMCS to go low if ~WR is low ? would that work ? or would it need some address qualifier also like address <= $1FFF
I guess RAMCS should be high when ROMCS is activated. (See 56k Vs 16k comment)
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is.
Moggy
Posts: 3411
Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:00 pm

Re: Oh no! Not another ULA.

Post by Moggy »

Paul wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:56 pm About blinkenlight pins: I guess both oscillator pins are unused :?:

About BigBang: which content is at address 1001?
255?
No idea I only use it, but do not know how it works. :oops:
User avatar
Paul
Posts: 1570
Joined: Thu May 27, 2010 8:15 am
Location: Germanys west end

Re: Oh no! Not another ULA.

Post by Paul »

Moggy wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:01 pm
Paul wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:56 pm About blinkenlight pins: I guess both oscillator pins are unused :?:

About BigBang: which content is at address 1001?
255?
No idea I only use it, but do not know how it works. :oops:
Just try PRINT PEEK 1001 ;)
I tried in eightyone, it gave 54, but I'm not shure I have the actual ROM. Mine could be older...
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is.
Post Reply