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ZX81 BASIC Programming Book

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:55 pm
by RWAP
Hmm - this has confused me - how big should the ZX81 BASIC Programming book be?

I have three different versions which are bound (probably have a ring bound one somewhere).

Two are 212 pages - one is in Spanish (first edition), the other in English (2nd edition reprint 1982).

I then have one which is only 156 pages in English, and is supposed to be the 2nd edition, 1983 reprint :?

See listings on http://www.sellmyretro.com/category/Ret ... ZX81/Books

Re: ZX81 BASIC Programming Book

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:53 pm
by Moggy
I too have the three types The ring bind is the earlier one the straight bound one was usually sent out with issue three zeddies and the slim one I seem to recall was a last gasp effort as the zeddie went out of favour.

Moggy.

Re: ZX81 BASIC Programming Book

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:24 pm
by PokeMon
I have english issue (156 pages) and german issue (212 pages).
I think there is no difference, the german has a nice picture and a following blank page between the lessons which adds about 60 more useful :mrgreen: pages.

Re: ZX81 BASIC Programming Book

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:01 pm
by 1024MAK
I have three English copies:
  • The one in the best condition is a ring bound one. It says on the first page that it is a "First Edition" and has a copyright message "© 1980 by Sinclair Research Limited". On the last page (212) it says "Printed at The Leagrave Press Limited, Luton & London" and on the back cover the address listed is: "Sinclair Research Limited", "6 King's Parade, Cambridge CB2 1SN England".
  • The second one is a bit tatty and appears to be the same as the one above, except that it is missing the first page with the edition and copyright details.
  • The last one is a normal paperback type book. The details on the first page are: First Edition 1980, Second Edition 1981, Reprinted 1982. The copyright notice is "© 1980 by Sinclair Research Limited". On the last page (212) it says "Printed at The Leagrave Press Limited, Luton & London" and on the back cover the address listed is: "Sinclair Research Limited", "25 Willis Road, Cambridge CB1 2AQ England".
Mark

Re: ZX81 BASIC Programming Book

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:07 pm
by 1024MAK
PokeMon wrote:I have english issue (156 pages) and german issue (212 pages).
I think there is no difference, the german has a nice picture and a following blank page between the lessons which adds about 60 more useful :mrgreen: pages.
212 - 156 = 56
56 / 2 = 28
There are 28 chapters...
Easy money saving a little bit on the printing and transport costs :mrgreen:

ZX81 manuals

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:44 am
by Lardo Boffin
It turns out I currently have a few manuals hoarded safely stored in my office:

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There are:

Spiral bound -
4 * First edition from 6 King’s Parade - no obvious mention of who printed them
1 * Second Edition 1981 from 6 King’s Parade - printed at The Leagrave Press
3 * Second Edition Reprinted 1982 from 6 King’s Parade - printed at The Leagrave Press

Perfect bound -
1 * Second Edition Reprinted 1982 (212 pages) from 25 Willis Road - printed at The Leagrave Press
3 * Second Edition Reprinted 1983 (160 pages) from 25 Willis Road - printed by Richard Clay Ltd

Does anyone have any other variants?

Re: ZX81 BASIC Programming Book / manual

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 12:23 pm
by 1024MAK
See also here ;) (now the first post of this topic, as I have merged the two together).
1024MAK wrote: Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:00 pm Sinclair manuals

A two minute search in my bookcase has so far found six ZX81 manuals and four ZX Spectrum 16k/48k manuals... (and that's not including me going near any storage boxes!)

ZX81 manuals:

First edition, © 1980. Has a black ring binder and 212 pages. Printed at The Leagrave Press Limited, Luton & London. Sinclair' address at this time was 6 King's Parade.

Second edition 1981, © 1980. Has a black ring binder and 212 pages. Printed at The Leagrave Press Limited, Luton & London. Sinclair' address at this time was 6 King's Parade.

Second edition 1981, © 1980. Has a black ring binder and 212 pages. Printed at The Leagrave Press Limited, Luton & London. Sinclair' address at this time was 6 King's Parade.

Second edition 1981, © 1980. Has a black ring binder and 212 pages. Printed at The Leagrave Press Limited, Luton & London. Sinclair' address at this time was 6 King's Parade.

Missing the first sheet :-(. Has a black ring binder and 212 pages. Printed at The Leagrave Press Limited, Luton & London. Sinclair' address at this time was 6 King's Parade.

Second edition 1981, reprinted 1982. © 1980. Perfect bound (glued spine). 212 pages. Printed at The Leagrave Press Limited, Luton & London. Sinclair' address at this time was 25 Willis Road.

Note the front cover illustrations on both the ZX81 and the ZX Spectrum manuals are by John Harris of Young Artists.
The above is copied from here ;-)

Mark

Re: ZX81 BASIC Programming Book

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 2:35 pm
by Lardo Boffin
Thanks Mark.

Where did you see the printer’s information in the First Edition? I couldn't find it.

Re: ZX81 BASIC Programming Book

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:26 am
by David G
would it be too much to ask for a photo or scan of one page? First Edition "Appendix A - The character set" towards the back

Reportedly it differs from the newer editions. The page in question from the Second Edition (1981) is here

thanks in advance

Re: ZX81 BASIC Programming Book

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:56 pm
by Lardo Boffin
Its a few pages but here you go!
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