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Re: ZX81 strange keyboard problem?
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:59 am
by 1024MAK
hyttju wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:38 am
I can not change line so it is impossible to run commands.
Here is a picture of what came up when i wrote
10 print "hello world"
And what happened when you pressed the [NEW LINE] (enter/return) key?
Mark
Re: ZX81 strange keyboard problem?
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:12 am
by sirmorris
Something is wrong with the addressing logic used to select the character data. The ULA uses the character code in the dfile as part of the calculated address of the character's bitmap data in ROM. It's consistently wrong, not random.
The ULA looks in the d-file and sees '1' but produces '-'. 'P' is unaffected. As are L,O,R and space.
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'1' = 1Dh, 00011101b
'-' = 16h, 00010110b
'P' = 35h, 00110101b
So to turn '1' into '-' you remove bit 3. Bit 3 is clear in 'P' and therefore it remains unaffected.
Because the computer is working this problem with A3 has to be internal to the ULA. If A3 were damaged on the processor side then seemingly random opcodes would be executed and the computer would not work.
Re: ZX81 strange keyboard problem?
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:46 am
by Andy Rea
sirmorris wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:12 am
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Because the computer is working this problem with A3 has to be internal to the ULA.
Or it is not connected / dry jointed at the ula
We gotta be optimistic that the ula ain't dead
Regards
Re: ZX81 strange keyboard problem?
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:02 pm
by Andy Rea
I'm.more convinced on the open circuit idea now, i. The word PRINT the wrong letters à3 is high but in the word HELLO the wrong letters a3 is low this pattern will reapeat every 8 characters as à3 is following the refresh register as it counts down across the screen...
Regards
Re: ZX81 strange keyboard problem?
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:34 pm
by sirmorris
Andy Rea wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:46 amOr it is not connected / dry jointed at the ula
Yes that's a possibility but then other functions that rely on a3 would be broken - kb input for example.
I didn't carry on to check my theorem so I missed the fact that the other wrong letters had a3 pulled high. Shame on me
Re: ZX81 strange keyboard problem?
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:40 pm
by 1024MAK
I think an internal ULA fault is the most likely. However, a poor connection could result in some functions working, while others don't work. As the impedance of the electrical circuit may affect the voltage level.
Mark
Re: ZX81 strange keyboard problem?
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:54 pm
by sirmorris
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E A E A E A
- - - - - -
1 - 1d 16 1101 0110
0 = 1c 14 1100 0100
p p 35 35 0101
r r 37 37 0111
i a 2e 26 1110 0110
n n 33 33 0011
t l 39 31 1001 0001
h 9 2d 25 1101 0101
e 6 2a 22 1010 0010
l l 31 31 0001
o o 34 34 0100
w o 3c 34 1100 0100
d 5 29 21 1001 0001
Bit 3 forced to zero in every case. Well that killed 10 minutes
Re: ZX81 strange keyboard problem?
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:55 pm
by sirmorris
Re: ZX81 strange keyboard problem?
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:12 pm
by Andy Rea
Oops sorry everyone think my brain is addled
Guess this is what happens when one neglects the humble zeddy for so long
Re: ZX81 strange keyboard problem?
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:31 pm
by Andy Rea
Oh one more thing, just to be sure I'm completely bonkers and haven't a clue as to what's going on... we all going bit 3 of the character code translates into bit 6 ( A6' on the ula ) because we have the line counter at A0' A1' A2'.
It is very odd that it's only presenting a logo. Low during character generation and not all the time. But i guess it is looking like the ula is frazzled.
Regards.
P.s. do they do certificates in crazy
